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Excerpts from "Confessions of a Dissident" by Marsden Wagner, MD

Following are excerpts from Chapter 14 of Robbie Davis-Floyd's book "Childbirth and Authoritative Knowledge: Cross-Cultural Perspectives". Go here for the full text.

Note that titles are supplied by LLM, BirthLove site editor, and do not appear in the original text.


Doctors didn't want it known that midwives were saving lives

"While in California I had heard of an amazing experiment in a rural town which recruited two midwives (at that time such midwifery was illegal in California) to work in the public hospital. During the three years in which they handled most of the births, the incidence of prematurity dropped almost by half, and neonatal mortality dropped from 23.9 per thousand to 10.3 per thousand- less than half of what it had been before the midwives arrived. This success was followed, nonetheless, by a medical backlash-- the program was discontinued, and the perinatal mortality rates returned to its previously high levels (Levy et al. 1971). But, as an American, I knew essentially nothing about midwifery and, while curious about this experiment, I had failed to see its importance."


Cheated out of his own births

"I had also experienced the births of my own four children. The obstetricians were so nice to me that it was not until the fourth birth that I realized that I had been patronized and denied the opportunity to be present at the births. So I asked the obstetrician at the UCLA hospital where I was on staff to allow me to be present, and he said no. To my everlasting chagrin, I complied. While I had questioned some of the workings of the maternity system, I had not questioned its fundamental authority."


"...only approximately 10% of all routine obstetrical procedures had an adequate scientific basis."

"...I decided to form a perinatal study group to work with me in evaluating maternity and neonatal services in Europe...I started by including only obstetrics and neonatology in the study group, but as we worked I realized we needed other viewpoints, and so I gradually added nursing, midwifery, social science, and finally consumers. We started by reviewing the scientific literature and soon came across the gap between science and practice. To confirm this observation, we recruited a scientist not in the group to survey routine obstetrical procedures. We were shocked when the report from this scientist concluded that only approximately 10% of all routine obstetrical procedures had an adequate scientific basis (Fraser 1983).

The group decided to do cross-national surveys of present maternity care practices. We found that...there was little or no monitoring of maternity services. Our surveys showed great variation in obstetrical practices with little or no relationship to perinatal outcome (Bergsjo et al. 1983). The variation was among countries, within countries, within districts, between hospitals. In other words, obstetrics reflected the opinions and wishes of the Chief of Obstetrics in a given hospital. The variations also reflected custom: every continental European country preferred the vacuum extractor, while Britain and every former British colony preferred forceps. Such findings went a long way to disenchant me not only with "authoritative" knowledge but with authoritative practice (AP) as well."


The homebirth that changed his life

"After asking the pregnant woman for permission, [the midwife] took me along to a prenatal visit so I would not be a stranger at the time of birth. Already I was beginning to see that this was very different from the obstetrical approach, that the medical and social models of birth were completely distinct. It would be impossible for me to exaggerate the influence of my experience with homebirth on my opinion of obstetrical authoritative knowledge and practice. Home birth is as different from hospital birth as night is from day. Trying to describe home birth is like trying to describe sexual intercourse- you can give the outlines, but you can never adequately describe the personal dynamics, feelings, ambience."


Holland: a thorn in OBs' sides

"The fact that the Netherlands has never had a home birth rate under 30% and has birth outcomes equivalent to or better than neighboring countries is a huge thorn in the side of obstetrical authoritative knowledge."


OBs are unwilling to change their practices

"We soon learned that when it came to questions about control (including home birth and midwifery) and technology, obstetricians were adamant and unwilling to consider change, even in the face of compelling evidence."


Why medicalized birth doesn't work

"By medicalizing birth, i.e. separating a woman from her own environment and surrounding her with strange people using strange machines to do strange things to her in an effort to assist her (and much or all of this may sometimes be necessary), the woman's state of mind and body is so altered that her way of carrying through this intimate act must equally be altered. The result is that it is no longer possible to know what births must have been like before these manipulations. Most health care providers no longer know what non-medicalized birth is. This is an overwhelmingly important issue."


Modern obstetrical knowledge is based on how women give birth in medical cages

"Almost all women in most developed countries in Europe give birth in hospital, leaving the providers of the birth services with no genuine yardstick against which to measure their care. What is the range for length of safe labor? What is the true [i.e. non-iatrogenic- doctor-caused] incidence of respiratory distress syndrome in newborn babies? What is the incidence of tears of the tissues surrounding the vaginal opening if the tissues are not first cut? What is the incidence of depression in women after "non-medicalized" birth? The answer to all these, and many more, questions is the same: no one knows. The entire modern obstetric and neonatological literature is essentially based on observations of medicalized birth. [WHO 1985:85]"


What comes first: furthering public health, or furthering one's profession?

"Furthermore, as a group they often focus on concerns irrelevant to people's health. I remember being somewhat taken aback when I first realized as a young doctor that the American Academy of Pediatrics, of which I was a member, had two goals: to advance the health of children, and to advance the wellbeing of pediatricians. In this second role, the Academy functioned like a labor union, and if the two goals came into conflict, as sometimes happened, the second goal almost always took precedence. It became more and more clear that there were many determinants of medical practice, some having nothing at all to do with health. This realization about the nature of doctors and what makes them tick was another revelation for me that became part of the paradigm shift I was making."


Money makes the machine run

"I saw that commercial pressures are ever-present. For example, the International Federation of Obstetrics and Gynecology organized a meeting to make recommendations for the use of the electronic fetal monitor. The travel and local costs of the participants were paid for by the industries making the monitors, and in order to get into the room, it was necessary to pass through a large commercial display of monitors. When I wrote to the obstetrician who had organized the meeting, expressing my concern for possible conflict of interest, he wrote back, indignantly assuring me that he was at all times "objective." My concern remained, since the meeting recommended routine electronic monitoring of all births, although the scientific literature did not and does not justify such a recommendation (Leveno et al. 1986, Prentice and Lind 1987; see Goer 1995:131-153 for summaries of 39 medical studies relevant to EFM)."


Doctors find it very difficult to admit fault; therefore change is just as difficult

"Custom and habits are determinants of practice; how else to explain that for operative vaginal birth, forceps are used in Britain and her former colonies while the rest of the world uses the vacuum extractor? Convenience is the best explanation for the fact that induction of labor is so common in many countries that there are statistically significantly fewer births on weekends and at night. Willingness to change involves willingness to admit that you have been doing it wrong. This may help to explain why most obstetricians still prefer the woman to deliver on her back with her legs up during birth even though we have known for decades that, scientifically speaking, that is the worst possible position.


About "doctor-bashing"

"When I speak about such non-medical determinants of practice, I am told I am "doctor-bashing." Any criticism whatsoever of physicans is called "doctor-bashing." Whence comes this term? I can criticize my auto mechanic and I am not "bashing." (Note the paucity of doctor jokes, most of which are about how godlike doctors are.)"


Doctors as societal gods

"From long personal experience I can assure the reader that being called Doctor morning, noon, and night has a profound effect on one's self-image. For some years now I have carried out an interesting experiment. I have tried to excise 'Doctor' from my name- from everyday conversation, from letters, from participant labels at meetings, etc. It is difficult to do so. If I say to someone, 'Please don't call me Doctor, as that is not what my mother named me,' they are confused and embarrassed, and often I get the impression they think I am a crackpot.

But the most difficult problem, sad to say, has been with myself. Normally I find it a relief not to be called Doctor, but from time to time I am sorely tempted. When I am trying to get action from someone, all I have to do is use 'Doctor' and things happen. This is especially true if I am dealing with a hospital or physician's office where the use of "Doctor" immediately creates an atmosphere of subservience around me. Small wonder that "Doctors" soon come to believe that they and their authoritatve knowledge and authoritative practic eare beyond reproach."


Making the "patient" an equal

"Why do doctors have 'patients'? Other professionals have "clients," something very different. Clients hire professionals to perform services for them- they call the shots. But turning a person into a 'patient'redefines that person as someone who is sick and under a doctor's supervision- automatically a dependent position. Because pregnancy and birth are not illnesses, I have worked hard the past ten years not to use the word "patient" in maternity care. For example, in Having a Baby in Europe, the word 'patient' never appears. When speaking or writing about maternity care, health professionals often use 'mother,' again an unfortunate term since it refers only to the woman in her role as a mother and not to the whole person. So I try to use 'woman.' Several years ago I finally convinced WHO in Europe to change "'Maternal and Child Health'(used everywhere in the world) to 'Women's and Children's Health.'"


No whistle-blowers, please

"Another mechanism to protect medical authoritative knowledge and practice is, as we have seen, for all doctors to join together into an extremely powerful private club known as the medical profession. I have been a member of this club since I took the Hippocratic oath on the day of my graduation from medical school. One central rule of this club is never to criticize other doctors or medical authoritatve knowledge or authoritative practice in public. As early as medical school, we were told that the doctor who does so is a traitor to the profession."


What it took to make midwifery legal in Ontario, Canada

"One day about ten years ago I received a call from a criminal lawyer in Toronto, Canada. She was desperate because, for the first time in her career, she had a case involving health professionals and was having great difficulty finding any doctor willing to testify in court. Her clients were two midwives who had attended a homebirth after which the baby died. Midwifery had been illegal for the last 100 years in every Canadian province and, with this death, the local obstetricians went to the coroner demanding an inquest. Several obstetricians had agreed to testify for the prosecution at the inquest but, although the lawyer had found several doctors who told her, 'off the record,' that the midwives had done nothing wrong and were not culpable, they would not testify to this in a coutroom open to the public.

I went to Toronto and in my testimony at the coroner's inquest talked about midwifery. The members of the jury knew nothing about midwifery but were open, and listened while I talked about the central role of midwives in maternity care in the rest of the world. I was simply giving the midwifery AK, as well as the AK developed by our WHO Study Group. At the end of the trial the jury wrote a ten-page report demanding that the government investigate making midwifery legal. The government eventually did so- in 1992, midwifery became legal in Ontario Province."


Making medical data available to the public

"A simple example will illustrate how public health practitioners acquiesce to the power of medical practitioners. In many countries it is fortunately becoming more common to collect data from hospitals and clinics on their practices. This data is collated at the central level by public health authorities who feed it back to the practitioners. So far so good. But how about giving this data to the public so they can make informed choices about which hospital, clinic, or physician to choose? Needless to say, the doctors are against this: they don't want information about their individual practices available to the public ("who can't understand it anyway"), as they are concerned about unfavorable comparisons with other doctors. The result is that in many places this data is still not available to the general public, or, if it is available, it does not identify the hospital, clinic, or doctor. I have argued without success against this latter strategy with public health practitioners in Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Australia, and the U.S."


No balance to discussions, please

"Several years ago I went to Leipzig to an annual meeting of a European perinatal organization attended by hundreds of obstetricians. A leading obstetrician gave a lecture on the history of maternity care which covered all the outstanding medical breakthroughs and advances of the past century, and the high level of current obstetrical knowledge. The presentation was so unbalanced that, during the ensuing discussion, I (naively) tried to bring some better balance by noting that some important history was left out, such as the DES (diethylstilbestorol) and thalidomide disasters. Immediately the speaker and audience became quite hostile to me. Gradually, I have come to realize that the central purpose of medical meetings is not the presentation of balanced reports but rather to provide a reconfirmation of the correctness of the obstetrical authoritative knowledge."


Women dying in childbirth is kept secret

"Maternal mortality audits and perinatal audits, in which the deaths of women and babies are analyzed, are always done in secret committee. The fact that these committees find a significant proportion of deaths to have been preventable and to have resulted from mistakes in clinical judgment does not usually reach public awareness. In Pursuing the Birth Machine I wrote,

"The fact that caesarean section carries serious risks for both woman and baby seems to be one of modern civilization's best-kept secrets. Why is it that an article in a leading American obsetrical journal proving that elective repeat caesarean section has a 6 times higher maternal mortality than vaginal birth (Pettiti et al. 1982) had no apparent effect on the rapidly rising caesarean section rate in that country? Why can a leading medical journal, in all apparent seriousness, publish an article suggesting that all birth be caesarean sections (Feldman and Freidman 1985)? Why is it that when the possibility of caesarean section arises, women are not told as part of their informed consent that the procedure increases the chance of their dying and increases the chance that their baby will have a life-threatening illness? [1994: 185-186]'"



Three elements needed to improve maternity services

The most effective collaboration seems to combine three elements: a few doctors and scientists who are knowledgeable about obstetrical authoritative knowledge, midwifery authoritative knowledge, public health authoritative knowledge, and the current scientific literature, and who are willing to go public; interested journalists not intimidated by doctors; and consumer groups not controlled by health professionals and not afraid to aggressively go public."


The main difference between OBs and women/midwives talking about birth issues

"The atmosphere of the two types of conference is equally different. It is not unfair to describe the ambience of obstetrical meetings as serious self-importance. The participants are mostly men who have exchanged their white coats for dark suits and ties. The ambience of the birth conferences is earnest joyfulness. Participants are mostly women- it is difficult to get too serious and stuffy with crying babies and breastfeeding mothers everywhere to remind us what this work is really all about."


The doctors didn't want a reality check

"The birth conferences can bring surprises to some of the participants, especially physicians only familiar with medical meetings. I remember that during the first birth conference in Denmark, the doctor who was head of the ultrasound department at the University Hospital gave a glowing account of the wonders of obstetrical ultrasound. There followed a discussion in which participants brought forward the lack of scientific documentation for his assertions and the fact that not one experimental trial had yet shown efficacy for routine scanning during pregnancy. The physician in question was most dismayed with what for him was clearly an unusual reaction to his standard speech.

Similarly, at one of the most recent birth conferences, organized by the Midwives' Association of Luxembourg in 1993, I presented data on how the use of obstetrical interventions in Luxembourg far exceeds the WHO recommendations, following which there was a heated debate between the obstetricians and the midwives over these practices. At the end of the conference a local obstetrician told me he was shocked, as the doctors had agreed to come because 'we expected to have a friendly chat with the girls.'"


Editors attempted to censor him

"Many attempts were made to stop or change my writings. When I began to publish scientific articles running counter to the medical authoritative knowledge, I was told that all of my writings must be approved by management before I submit them to journals. I told them this was scientific censorship and I would quit first, and they backed off."


Midwives marginalized and ignored by medical officers in WHO

"Some of WHO's work, for example, the report on Primary Health Care from Alma Ata (WHO 1978) and the Regional Targets for Health for All (WHO 1986) from Copenhagen are based on the public health approach and are outstanding, but the organization has not been able to promote these publications aggressively enough because they contain ideas counter to medical orthodoxy and therefore might displease Ministries of Health and/or physicians. Both of these WHO documents emphasize the important role of non-physician health workers such as the midwife and the traditional birth attendant (TBA). Yet for many years there was no midwife on the regular staff in WHO headquarters in Geneva or WHO European Regional Office in Copenhagen.

There is very little possibility for WHO headquarters to influence the Regional Offices or vice-versa. The WHO headquarters’ programs for TBAs always tended to emphasize how we might train them, never honoring their indigenous knowledge nor trying to empower them in an egalitarian way as primary health care workers. Attempts by the European Perinatal Study Group and the subsequent WHO Consensus Conference recommendations to empower midwives and bring back their central role in maternity care in the industrialized countries met with resistance from doctors both within and outside of WHO."


Bringing birth back to the women

"In effect, all of my efforts at WHO, as well as the efforts of many other dedicated individuals, have been directed at expanding the body of knowledge recognized as authoritative in obstetrics, at opening it up to include the authority of birthing women, midwives, scientific researchers, and public health advocates and professionals. These efforts are part of the global struggle for control of maternity services, which in turn is part of the much larger struggles for (1) control of women in patriarchial cultures; and (2) control of all health services.

In another paper, Patricia Stephenson, a health service researcher, and I describe how the medical profession is used by society to control women's reproductive health (Stephenson and Wagner 1993b). And in Pursuing the Birth Machine I describe in much more detail how the struggle for maternity services as part of all health services plays itself out in different parts of the world. I also point out a number of outstanding examples of people, including doctors, midwives, and scientists, who have broken out of the obstetrical orthodoxy and made important contributions to broadening both the authority and the knowledge on the basis of which decisions about birth can be made, and actions taken."

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